Dev30ils' Frogs and Vivs (pictures)

[Dev30ils]

Opportunity arose for me to acquire my first frogs sooner than anticipated. Originally I was planning on waiting until the end of the August for some tincs, and had begun construction on their 18x18x24 exo terra (more on that soon). That project was put on slight hold in order to pick up this trio of Mints from Jack, a member who is planning on leaving the hobby (he has other frogs up for sale to other Carolina people here).

Since this exchange had to be made in somewhat of a hurry, I went ahead and began construction of a quick 20L peninsula. The false bottom is an egg crate "cage" held together by zip ties. Background is zoo med cork background tile cut to size, and held in place by simple physics. The viv is planted with several fireballs, one Mo Peppa Please, pep serpens, s. rayii, and some sheet moss from Josh's Frogs. Everything in the viv is easily removable since nothing is siliconed in place (this was done both to eliminate the need for curing and allow me to change the style of the viv if need be).

I picked up the frogs yesterday and got them acclimated to their new home. I have heard one brief call already, and have witnessed some piggy-backing between two of them. I hope this all means that they approve of their new digs. They also got their first crack at small crickets today. All of the frogs were able to catch some, but I'm sure it's more work than they're used to and will take some more practice.

Below you'll find a few pictures, more will soon follow once I figure out the best way to light the room for shooting, etc. Would also like to say a big "thanks" to Jack for some great frogs and Adam (Shinosuke) for helping me get started with some isopod and fly cultures.

This is about half the viv, I'll try to get the full tank shot tomorrow...


If this is the male (I think it may be this one), I believe I will call him Sir Charles in honor of Mr. Barkley ("that's turrible").


Here's the other two in a shot that's fairly out of focus, I'll practice more I promise...

[curlykid]

Very nice frogs! Welcome to the community. Just some friendly words of advice, you're going to want to start misting more often because the frogs are so dry the substrate is sticking to them. Take care. - Nick

[Dev30ils]

Thanks for the advice Nick,

The substrate sticking to them was likely a result of me not giving the entire viv a more thorough soaking before letting the frogs take up residence. This has since been rectified. I will definitely try to mist for more extended periods. Humidity remains nice and high at around 85%, temps range from 79 at the height of the day to around 73 at night.

[randommind]

Congrats on the new 'mints', they are great frogs and you will certainly enjoy them. I'll be looking forward to that FTS!

I just wanted to toss this link your way...
Terribilis foot rot?
It discusses a couple issues directly related to terribilis that you may want to look into in regards to wet substrate and higher temps.

[Dev30ils]

Originally Posted by randommind

Congrats on the new 'mints', they are great frogs and you will certainly enjoy them. I'll be looking forward to that FTS!

I just wanted to toss this link your way...
Terribilis foot rot?
It discusses a couple issues directly related to terribilis that you may want to look into in regards to wet substrate and higher temps.

Thanks for that link, that's incredibly useful information to have on hand!

[IEatBugs]

Originally Posted by curlykid

Very nice frogs! Welcome to the community. Just some friendly words of advice, you're going to want to start misting more often because the frogs are so dry the substrate is sticking to them. Take care. - Nick

I am interested in reading more into this statement. Can you or anyone else elaborate on it further?

Thanks!

[eos]

Nice frogs and great looking (half) tank. lol...
Devils fan... awesome!

[Shinosuke]

Glad to see it worked out! I'm looking forward to watching your collection grow.

[R1ch13]

Lovely frogs!

For the Terribs I'd personally add some flat pieces of rock such as slate, or even some faux rocks that will dry out quickly. Theres nothing worse for Terribs than them standing about in damp substrate all day, in my personal opinion. I have had a couple off hiccups regarding Terribilis and overly damp substrate when I was starting out and now try to keep the majority of their vivarium floor either faux or real rocks which keeps contact with the damp substrate at a minimum. I also tend to keep them on the drier side with less frequent mistings.

Although often referred to as "bulletproof" and a good beginner frog I would always edge on the side of caution with Terribilis. They really are notorious for skin and feet problems when their environmental requirements are not met.

Even though you have already seeded the viv I would load it even more to ensure a thriving micro and macrofaunal janitorial population - Terribs produce ALOT of waste and if left sitting around in it all day then it will reek havok with their sensitive skin.

Regards,
Richie

[Dev30ils]

Thanks for the comments everyone!

Richie, that is a great tip. I will get them a few pieces of slate today. They do have a cork round that you don't see in these pictures that they can go on top of or inside that dries out pretty quick, but I'll add them a few more places they can dry out on.

I will definitely be adding to the microfauna in the tank soon. For some reason Josh is out of Tropical Springtails, so I need to order some somewhere else I guess. Suggestions?