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Old 07-06-2012, 03:27 AM
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I came on this forum looking for support, being a new owner to dart frogs. I was surprised immediately by the non-support I received. I understand that not everyone in this world sees eye to eye. I came on here looking for thoughts and comments...yes...but received more than I expected. I can't help but think that some people on this forum are just looking for a debate, and or fight. I am simply NOT here for that. I wanted to meet people who shared in my passion for frogs. I am not sure if I will continue with this forum but I hope that soon I will receive the SUPPORT I was looking for.

To all on here, that I have had conflict with, why can't we just agree to disagree and move on with it.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:52 AM
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From what I have seen - they have. I just read the Salt Creek thread and it seems like you all came to an agreement.

Just relax a little - try not to be easily offended. I know that's not always easy (I speak from experience, not necessarily on this board).

DB is a terrific source of information on our hobby. It can occasionally be a bit hazardous to go against the flow. From what I've seen, you've experienced that first hand - but also learned quite a bit about what conditions your frogs need in the process.

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Old 07-06-2012, 03:58 AM
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So naturally after reading this post I decided to dig through your threads and see what the fuss was all about... I figured "wow, somebody must have really gone off on this poor guy for no reason"

but then I read the threads... and I saw people trying to be helpful and then you instantly becoming combative.

So, from an outsiders perspective... Since I have not talked to you before... I'm going to try to offer a few tips:

1) DO NOT USE CAPS LIKE THIS to emphasize on things. It will instantly annoy whoever you are directing it towards.

2) When people try to offer advice... don't snap back at them if it contradicts what you have been told by somebody else (no matter who that person happens to be)

3) An extension of #2. Don't name drop. It is petty and people will not respect you.

Finally... this little quote stood out to me:

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and really if any of you people would open your mind to the fact that I have my own oppinions and ideas, then you wouldn't have to make this a debate
Having this attitude on any forum is going to get you into trouble. People here are offering you advice based on the practices that have been established over many years of successfully keeping these frogs. You are coming in with (what appears to us) very little experience and saying things like "that's what the frogs like". The problem is that you have not presented any legitimate evidence that contradicts what we have established as sound practices in the hobby. People here are very accepting of new ideas and practices when there is sound science behind it. However, they will quickly question things that don't appear to be supported by facts.

You have to understand... you are new... until you establish yourself here, people will care more about the safety of your frogs than about you. That's just the way it is. We want the frogs to be safe and happy and then we will be glad to get to know you. So if we come across as harsh it is simply because we want to make sure you make the appropriate adjustments to give the animals the best care possible.

So to finish this off... Please, just take a deep breath and don't be so combative. People are going to tell you that you are doing things wrong. Sometimes they will be right, sometimes they wont. It is a fact of life (and the internet). Nobody is here to put anyone down. We are all here to share our love for the frogs. If you feel as though someone is singling you out for any reason take it up with the moderator staff.

Good luck and happy frogging.
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Old 07-06-2012, 04:50 AM
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. People here are very accepting of new ideas and practices when there is sound science behind it. However, they will quickly question things that don't appear to be supported by facts.
I want to emphasize this to some extent...... This hobby has a number of things that are actually based on real hard core science... and to contradict those will get you into trouble.

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