Shipping frogs in their tank...

[jdooley195]

This is just out of curiosity....

I assume shipping a frog in a tank would be and dangerous because of mishandling reasons....but, if you were to ship one within its tank, and it were handled carefully, and the temps remained proper....would the tank environment decrease stress on the frog enough to allow for a longer shipping period?

I know the weight would still make it expensive....

Im just thinking in text here.....

Tommy

[frogparty]

Broken glass....nuff said. Remember fragile doesn't mean anything to package handlers

[jdooley195]

haha.. im sayin if the shipping process wasnt an issue...health wise for the frogs, would it be safe?

I wouldnt trust any co. with a tank, but im sure enough foam could protect the glass fairly well.

[jbherpin]

Even if the tank walls were well insulated, the interior decor(substrate, plants, etc) would tumble and toss all over, including over the frogs. I would say abandon this idea unless you were the handler.

JBear

[Pumilo]

Broken glass, falling wood, rocks, and cork bark. Landslides burying frogs alive. OUTRAGEOUS shipping price. It can cost a hundred plus bucks to ship a 4 pound, 12" box overnight, I hate to think what shipping my heavy 2' x 2' x 2' pumilio viv would cost!
If you shake a 2 or 4 oz deli cup, the frog only moves a couple inches, never reaching a terminal velocity. Put him in a tank and shake it just as hard and you are going to be breaking some bones.
It would take me 20 times the amount of Phase 22 packs to temperature control an entire viv than it does to control a small box. In the winter that can be $25 or $30 worth of phase 22 packs. So to ship your viv we are talking about something like $600 worth of phase paks.
Sorry, but I can think of a lot of reasons this would never work but am having trouble coming up with a single reason it would be worth looking into.

[jbherpin]

As Pumilo has stated, what would be the benefit of shipping the entire system?

If you had sold it as an entire set up, it should have been pick up or delivery only. There is no way to ship it.

JBear

[jdooley195]

Why everyone is missing my point...Completely!

Health wise....would frogs being enclosed in their tank for a few days stress them out to an unhealthy level?...would there be sufficient oxygen?

I've already stated mishandling of the tank as not being an issue...leave that out.

[jdooley195]

For example...Say I box a tank with frogs and give it to someone I work with to bring with them on a 3-day business road trip. And I tell them to keep it in the cab with them when they're driving, and just bring it in the hotel room when they're not driving. Then meet this guy when you get this place and give him the box....

or...Or if you packaged them and placed them in a temp controlled moving truck for a few days.

Could being closed in a box in their own tank for a couple of days damage the frogs well being some how? <----Still my question

[jbherpin]

Originally Posted by jdooley195

For example...Say I box a tank with frogs and give it to someone I work with to bring with them on a 3-day business road trip. And I tell them to keep it in the cab with them when they're driving, and just bring it in the hotel room when they're not driving. Then meet this guy when you get this place and give him the box....

Could being closed in a box in their own tank for a couple of days damage the frogs well being some how?

If the box was handled very carefully, and all the excess water is drained I would see that as an option for transporting an entire system. However, I would look to use something more shock absorbant like styrofoam coolers rather than a thin box, or even better a double layer of both.

Might I add this whole plan just reeks of shady, lmaolmao!

Bets of luck!

JBear

[jbherpin]

Sorry, forgot to metion the temp stability when using styrofoam coolers.

JBear