weygoldt, legitimate morph?

cbreon · #1 (**permalink**) 08-17-2005, 04:33 AM

I have never seen this topic come up on the board, so here goes--is the "weygoldt" d. tinctorious morph a legitimate morph, or a crossbreed. I have heard people mention this question in conversations I've had over the last two years and recently saw it mentioned in the tinctoriuos morph guide, here is the link: http://www.tropical-experience.nl/tinct ... &submenu=0

Arklier · #2 (**permalink**) 08-17-2005, 06:11 AM

Weygoldts have been in the hobby a long time. Not sure about their ancestry, but I thought I'd point out that this situation is a perfect illustration why morphs of the same species should NOT be mixed.

#3 (**permalink**) 08-17-2005, 09:01 AM

But it's the most beautifull Tinq there is :shock:

Shockfrog · #4 (**permalink**) 08-17-2005, 12:29 PM

It is indeed a crossbreed made by a German guy surprisingly named Mr. Weygoldt.
This crossbreed was made many years ago and people seem to have forgot about this being a crossbreed.

Remco

markpulawski · #5 (**permalink**) 08-17-2005, 08:47 PM

There were wild caught animals imported as Weygoldt in 1999 and 2000, I sent some to a guy in Germany named Peter Nowark, he infomed what I sent him were not true weygoldt but something I can no longer remember the name of. The animals being sold as Weygoldt in the US are a true morph, maybe not true Weygoldt but a morph of Tinc that exists in the wild.
Mark

cbreon · #6 (**permalink**) 08-17-2005, 09:55 PM

Based on what Mark says I think it would certainly benefit the people selling or keeping wegoldt tincs to change the name to the appropriate name, or at least "d. Tinctorious sp" for now. This way we can try to seperate the legitimate from the crossbreeds. Here is a link to the pic of a "weygoldt" on kingsnake, is this the crossbreed or the unknown import? http://www.coolcrittersbylj.com/id58.htm

markpulawski · #7 (**permalink**) 08-17-2005, 10:37 PM

These are the ones that came in as WC animals through south Florida called Weygoldt. Strictly Reptiles along with a couple of others did 2-3 importations of this morph from South America. Perhaps someone in Europe can ask Peter about the frogs I exported to him, he seemed to know exactly what they were/are.
Mark

#8 (**permalink**) 08-18-2005, 01:55 AM

I acquired my Weygoldts from Cool Critters, the breeder that cbreon gave the link to. When I asked him where he got his frogs from he said he bought them as wild caughts a few years ago. Here are a few pictures of the weygoldts that I bought from him this past March.

cbreon · #9 (**permalink**) 08-20-2005, 05:44 AM

I sure would like to see the proper morph name for these guys, they certainly seem worthy. Anybody????

Marcus · #10 (**permalink**) 08-22-2005, 08:53 AM

Well i would call them 'Oelemarie' instead of Weygoldt.
Prof. Weygoldt (Germany) brought some animals years ago to Europe.
If I take a look at the two morphs on pictures and live at frogkeepers they are the same in my opinion. So Weygoldt maybe catched the animals in the wild along the Oelemarie River?
It has become difficult because in the past people have given different names to the same morphs/populations.
This was not always happend on purpose too make extra money but also because people did not know some morphs were already imported or brought along by people. Also USA/Canada and Europe were importing animals seperately so different names were used. Names like Montejo are not used in Europe. In the USA/Canda they don't use names as Oranje Gebergte.