Pumilo Import March - Page 2

Philsuma · #11 (**permalink**) 03-21-2010, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by edwing206

All these are morphs that are already in the hobby. Why are they still being imported? I'm not bashing anybody. I'm just curious.

Because Panama is still "wide open" and a $10-15 imported frog still has the potential to sell for over a hundred dollars US.

also,

Out of 100 imported Pumilio, my guess is that @ 5 make it to the 1 year plus mark and into the care of responsible hobbyists.

The "Rio's" are especially scarce in terms of successful breeding, compared to Eldorados, Bastimentos or even Almirante for example....

Woodsman · #12 (**permalink**) 03-21-2010, 09:22 PM

There's a big profit margin in wild-collected frogs, given that the frogs aren't raised and bred in captivity.

Richard.

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Originally Posted by edwing206

All these are morphs that are already in the hobby. Why are they still being imported? I'm not bashing anybody. I'm just curious.

Arrynia · #13 (**permalink**) 03-21-2010, 09:31 PM

Phil hit the nail on the head. It may seem like there are multitudes coming in, the mortality rate is going to be much higher vs. captive bred specimens.

Richard, unless I'm terribly mistaken, these are farm raised that are being brought in.

edwing206 · #14 (**permalink**) 03-21-2010, 09:33 PM

That's too bad. IMO we shouldn't support this kind of trade. I know a lot of people like the price but eventually it's going to take a huge toll on wild populations. I buy CB exclusively for this reason. I just think it's pretty irresponsible.

Edit: I just saw Arrynia's post. I didn't realize that they were Farm Raised. I was under the impression that they were Wild Caught.

dcameron · #15 (**permalink**) 03-21-2010, 09:36 PM

I received a good sized group of these imports about two weeks ago. They came in great health compared to some of the past WC imports. The real problem is going to be getting the rest into good hands

As for being farm raised, lets not kid ourselves. These are purely WC.

Philsuma · #16 (**permalink**) 03-21-2010, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrynia

these are farm raised that are being brought in.

I do not think they are "farm raised".

markpulawski · #17 (**permalink**) 03-21-2010, 10:09 PM

They are farm raised, I saw this batch almost every one had overalls and little straw hats on, if that's not from the farm I don't know what is....

Philsuma · #18 (**permalink**) 03-21-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by markpulawski

They are farm raised, I saw this batch almost every one had overalls and little straw hats on, if that's not from the farm I don't know what is....

Mark....you "slay" us...

Here's a real frog farm....turning a profit and most likely, helping reduce pressure on native species.

Chinese Forest Frogs Farming And Processing In Northeast China - Pictures - Zimbio

JeremyHuff · #19 (**permalink**) 03-22-2010, 02:38 AM

Does anyone have photos of these so-called farms in Panama? I think farm-raised just means it was from private land (farms).....

ChrisK · #20 (**permalink**) 03-22-2010, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JeremyHuff

Does anyone have photos of these so-called farms in Panama? I think farm-raised just means it was from private land (farms).....

frog farms