Carry-on Frog Luggage....

Philsuma · #1 (**permalink**) 02-03-2009, 06:50 PM

Need opinions and experiences.....good, bad and ugly of recent or semi recent airline encounters with your frogs and TSA, carry-on.

Thanks,

Phil

jgtech · #2 (**permalink**) 02-03-2009, 09:16 PM

I would love to hear about this as well. I reviewed Southwest, Frontier and United. It appears at least according to the text on their websites that in no way shape or form are frogs allowed on the plane either carry on or luggage. Kind of a bummer, was hoping to go to Frog Day in Phoenix in March and bring back some frogs to Colorado with me. Do any airlines let you carry them on?

Or is it more about just getting through security and ignoring the airline policy?

Bob S · #3 (**permalink**) 02-03-2009, 09:31 PM

Thought about that also. Would love to go to frog day and get out of the jersey arctic for a week, but getting frogs back hurts that idea. We could mail them to ourselves.

Philsuma · #4 (**permalink**) 02-03-2009, 09:31 PM

Doesn't look good....I remember the First National Reptile Breeders Expo in Orlando 1988. I carried on a large bag filled with snakes and lizards.....the good ole' dayz....

Over two million pets and other live animals are transported by air every year in the United States. Federal and state governments impose restrictions on transporting live animals. In addition, each airline establishes its own company policy for the proper handling of the animals they transport. As a shipper or owner you also have a responsibility to take the necessary precautions to ensure the well being of the animal you ship.

The federal Animal Welfare Act is enforced by the Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service of the U.S. Department of Agriculture

TSA FAQ
What am I not allowed to carry as baggage ?

Source: AIRPORT SERVICE
Live animals are not allowed.

Prohibted baggage:
There are items that cannot be transported onboard the aircraft in either your carry-ons or checked luggage:

Items prohibited by laws, regulations or restrictions by countries in your travel itinerary and/or items identified by EVA as unsuitable for carriage because of weight, size or nature.

Live animals, except for dogs, cats, rabbits and seeing eye/hearing aid dogs that are safely transported in accordance with EVA requirements

jgtech · #5 (**permalink**) 02-03-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob S

Thought about that also. Would love to go to frog day and get out of the jersey arctic for a week, but getting frogs back hurts that idea. We could mail them to ourselves.

Thought about that as well, Frog day is on Saturday, so really your frogs would sit somewhere in Phoenix for Saturday and probably some part of Sunday then eventually arrive at your home sometime Monday. Not ideal, but I guess not the end of the world. Problem is phx temps can vary pretty dramatically from probably 50's to 90's so do you pack with a hot pack, cold pack or none.

Philsuma · #6 (**permalink**) 02-03-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jgtech

Thought about that as well, Frog day is on Saturday, so really your frogs would sit somewhere in Phoenix for Saturday and probably some part of Sunday then eventually arrive at your home sometime Monday. Not ideal, but I guess not the end of the world. Problem is phx temps can vary pretty dramatically from probably 50's to 90's so do you pack with a hot pack, cold pack or none.

Man, there is NO way I would risk that! Delays of any sort are bad enough, but when you need hot or cold packs...forget it....that's when I start driving.

jubjub47 · #7 (**permalink**) 02-03-2009, 11:28 PM

Cindy Dicken posted this on another site regarding this very thing a few months ago:

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We have been flying to events with frogs for about 6 years, and I am a firm believer in the "No ask, no tell" phlosophy. The TSA could care less, it is the airlines that have the 'rules' as to what if any, animals can be brought on.
We have a carry on that is well within the allotted dimensions, the frogs get packed in deli cups placed in the bag and the bag is sent through Xray with NO attention drawn to the bag. IF somesone should question the contents we tell them they are tropical frogs, and leave it at that.

I can't say I have ever heard of anyone having a problem with carry on frogs when handled this way.
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beachbabe18509 · #8 (**permalink**) 02-03-2009, 11:31 PM

I had this same question last year before NAAC

Flying with frogs?

Fishman · #9 (**permalink**) 02-03-2009, 11:52 PM

Fish get carried through in the baggage compartment all the time. It fact Southwest is one of the best airport to airport shippers for large fish orders. So this being said, I can't see how an insulated box with a heat pack and frogs wouldn't be allowed.

ghettopieninja · #10 (**permalink**) 02-04-2009, 12:04 AM

I have never done frogs but I have brought back plants I collected/purchesed in both japan and costa rica without any problems, In those case I just put them in zip lock bags and wrapped them in a hoodie/some other article of clothing one would like to have in your carry on. I'm sure it's a different story getting frogs through, but you would think international customs would be far more strict, especially in a country like costa rica, then it would for domestic, so if it was that easy internationally I'm sure it's no biggie.