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Old 11-19-2007, 04:50 PM
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For those of you who use this stuff do you know if it will burn the frogs skin if they come in contact with your hands after putting hand sanitizer on them? It seems to really linger.
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For those of you who use this stuff do you know if it will burn the frogs skin if they come in contact with your hands after putting hand sanitizer on them? It seems to really linger.
I think you answered you're own question.

Sanitizer=poison
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For those of you who use this stuff do you know if it will burn the frogs skin if they come in contact with your hands after putting hand sanitizer on them? It seems to really linger.
I think you answered you're own question.

Sanitizer=poison[/quote:2bhma14x]


but i do like it when im sticking my hand in a few tanks right after another. But if I want to handle my larger frogs I will just continue to wash my hands each time. I also try to use non scented soap at all times.
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the stuff doesn't really linger as much as you think, it is mostly alchohol based which drys rather fast, but i normall wait a minute or two before placing my hand in the tank due to the fumes so it doesn;t affect the frogs, why are you touching the frogs anyway?
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it will burn the frogs within ten seconds of you putting it on. i took a babysitting course and this was part of the curriculum. i would wait 20 though, just in case.
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the stuff doesn't really linger as much as you think, it is mostly alchohol based which drys rather fast, but i normall wait a minute or two before placing my hand in the tank due to the fumes so it doesn;t affect the frogs, why are you touching the frogs anyway?
Yes, but what about residue from the gel and moisturizer additives? I think I would wash and rinse my hands before actually handling a frog just to be safe. But I agree that hand sanitizer between vivs during maintenance is a good practice.
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Nothing beats hand washing with plain soap and water. This physically removes bacteria and whatever else you are concerned with transmitting. Hand "sanitizers" merely make everyone feel better and were invented for busy nurses in hospitals, as an excuse for not washing their hands between patients in the emergency room or elsewhere. The crisis with MRSA nosocomial infections in hospitals has proved that this is not an effective method of stopping its spread.

Sorry, this has always been one of my sore points for years. I've spent many years in a secondary position of "infection control director" for a few rural hospitals, and have done many studies myself on this issue. An alcohol or antibiotic based sanitizer merely wiped on one's hands does not kill off Staphylococcus aureus, for instance. A plain soap and water scrub and rinse does, no matter what soap you use. My opinion is that hand sanitizers are a placebo and aren't worth their price.
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Can't say it any better than that...

I stick to soap and water as well.
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Disposable latex gloves???
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The crisis with MRSA nosocomial infections in hospitals has proved that this is not an effective method of stopping its spread.
Patty -

While I agree that alcohol gels are inferior to hand washing, do you have any references which show that Staph. aureus is specifically resistant to alcohol gels? I was not aware of this and would be surprised if it were true.

Organisms that can form spores (like some bacteria and some fungi) can be resistant to alcohol gels IF they have sporulated when the gel is applied. Staphylococcus, though, cannot form spores.
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