Pumilio aggression

[BC Bloodlines]

What would you consider the aggression level of these guys and based on this how many could be put in a fully planted 90gal (48x17x21).

[defaced]

Very very high. Pumillio are easily one of the most aggressive PDFs we work with. If you have the opportunity to thumb through Jewels of the Rainforest, there's a pic of a Pumilio attacking a grown Tinc for being in its territory. I know group Pumilio setups have been done (Rich Frye's Uberviv), but I would proceed with caution and if this is your first venture into darts, don't do it.

[nitsuj]

not that I enjoy darts fighting but could you by chance post a link to the video you're talking about DEFACED. Just curious.....

Justin

[bpetty13]

defaced isnt talking about a video. jewels of the rainforest is a book.

[defaced]

Yea, you can't "thumb through" a video. Jewel's is an older and dated book that has incredible pictures. It's a bit expensive, but you can usually find it at reptile shows where it's at least looking at.

[kyle1745]

I have to agree with Mike and unless you can offer a rather large vivarium anything other than pairs could be problematic.

[salvoz]

a 90-gallon, well-planted tank with ample tadpole depo sites, could easily accomodate more than one pair of pumilio, in my opinion, or, at the very least, a single male and multiple females. Yes they are an agressive species but a 90-gallon is a big tank. Why not try 2.2 or 2.3 and then closely monitor for male-male aggression or egg-eating by females and adjust the ratio as necessary?

[defaced]

Considering in the wild these guys occupy cubic meters of space as their territory, a 90g tank is not large in the slightest. I also don't think keeper experience can be ignored in this case either. I have no reason to think this person isn't anything by an impeccable keeper, but starting out in darts by trying to do many pumilio in a tank is not a good idea.
http://dendroboard.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=203472

[salvoz]

comparing any tank to the unobstructed wild is really not a proper contest. a 90-gal is a big tank relative to what most keepers are going to use. I dont think 2.2 pumilio in such an enclosure, provided its well-planted, is an outlandish concept. And if there are probs, the animals can be separated. Like your signature line suggests, much of this hobby is experimentation. Of course, I would never suggest a beginner to start with pums as their first darts, let alone groups of them, but unless we are in the "beginner" section, I generally don't assume a lack of experience.

[defaced]

What I'm getting at with tank size compaired to wild territory is that if in the wild a pum will attack a full grown tinc, then in a tank the problem is going to be intensified because of the space. I have nothing against someone trying it, have at it, but I'm not sure a 90g is a good place to do it.