crossing colors

[naja_naja]

Originally Posted by sbreland

apparently you have asked this question without any prior research, so I will spare you the explanation and tell you if you want the answers why it is not good to look it up. Do the research and you will see why and consider the damage that can be done and not just worry about your "cool looking frog" that you think will be produced. Call this a flame if you want, but ideas like this are what is not good for the hobby and people that perpetrate them are not in the best interest of the hobby itself. If I get smacked for that comment, so be it, but there will be more than a few that want to say it and just don't so I'll throww myself on the sword for those that don't want to speak up.

why are you people so mean... :cry: i mean holy crap even if there is a hybrid availiable why wouldnt you buy it just breed it with the same hybrid so it would basically just be another tinc morph considering that its not sterile

[Frog10]

I think everyone is so tough about it because they want to enforce whats best for the frogs. If the frogs offspring were born without legs or something, it would live a pretty crappy life. But that probably wouldn't happen. My mind must be on vacation still :lol:

[naja_naja]

Originally Posted by Frog10

I think everyone is so tough about it because they want to enforce whats best for the frogs. If the frogs offspring were born without legs or something, it would live a pretty crappy life. But that probably wouldn't happen. My mind must be on vacation still :lol:

k but in no way do i see how it couldnt be in the frogs best intrest

[Frog10]

Originally Posted by naja_naja

k but in no way do i see how it couldnt be in the frogs best intrest

But how could it be in their interest

[Rain_Frog]

Just try to picture what a patricia x new river would look like. Probably like a blue siplawini. There already is a frog that looks like that. So, why bother in the first place?

[naja_naja]

Originally Posted by Rain_Frog

Just try to picture what a patricia x new river would look like. Probably like a blue siplawini. There already is a frog that looks like that. So, why bother in the first place?

correction i said powder blue not the similiar patricia and i dont think it would look like a blue siplawini at all the colors constrast themselves to much in new river and powder blue

[naja_naja]

Originally Posted by Frog10

But how could it be in their interest

well its not like they care it would benefit people by making new colors

[Alan Zimmerman]

[naja_naja]

Originally Posted by Alan Zimmerman

oh arent you a funny @#!$

[Rain_Frog]

You are free to do what you want. But, considering there are already "intermediate" morphs, (for example like New River and Siplawini are very similar/intermediate to azureus), chances are nobody will be interested in them even IF it was acceptible in this hobby because there are already "pedigree" frogs out there.

I really don't want to get into a debate about crossing ethics again, but my personal stance is that:

...ok, maybe once the dart frog hobby ages a bit, say about 50 years or so (widespread) and most of the morphs were bred in regularity, THEN perhaps it might be ok to cross common morphs.

BUT, at the way different morphs/species in the hobby constantly go in waves depending on popularity, and considering the destruction of the rainforest, it isn't wise at this moment to waste precious bloodlines...or make things messy right now.

Additionally, I'd only be ok with cross morphing if some elaborate system was established if there were manmade "breeds" of frogs so people don't constantly mess around with genetics.

The harsh reality, I think its far too idealistic that morphs would be balanced with breeds. Unlike plants, we cannot take cuttings of our frogs or tissue culture them to preserve a trait.

Already, its not easy to find some morphs of frogs and there isn't a lot of genetic diversity. Some morphs may disappear if certain patches of habitat disappear.

I think its better to leave things alone for now.