license to sell frogs?

[josh raysin]

a local pet shop ( deals only with herps) told me i had to have a license to sell them my offspring. interesting considering they sell local WC snakes people bring in. i tried to contact FF&WC but cant get through. thanks josh

[josh raysin]

well come to find out there is a $40 permit to sell frogs and freshwater fish in FL.

http://myfwc.com/permits/rfd.pdf
the link to this reads "Resident Fresh Water Fish & Frog Dealer's License"

[Frogtofall]

They probably think the frogs are wild and poisonous. I've never heard of that before. Try and contact one of the big dogs like Patrick Nabors or someone to see what they say.

[josh raysin]

"Regulations Regarding the Buying and Selling of Reptiles and Amphibians:
Pursuant to Rule 68A-6.0021, F.A.C., it shall be unlawful to buy, sell, or transfer any wildlife to or from an unpermitted entity within Florida. This means that you cannot sell animals without a license (see above), and you cannot buy animals from a person who does not have a license. The
recipient’s name, address and the license number shall be entered into the transferor’s records and made available for inspection by Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission (FWC) employees for a period of one year after the transfer. No person shall possess any wildlife requiring
a permit for personal use, or any wildlife for sale or exhibition, without documentation of the source and supplier of such wildlife."

taken from here:http://myfwc.com/permits/JJRep_Frog_Regs.pdf

[Frogtofall]

This keeps repeating "Wildlife". I wonder if this refers to local (Florida) wildlife like the Anoles, Green Treefrogs, various snakes and whatnot. It doesn't say anything about hobbyists or "pets" for that matter.

Is it possible?

[josh raysin]

Aparently im also required by law to provide a water feature....."5) Amphibians: Aquatic amphibians shall be kept in water filled tanks, or aquaria. Semiaquatic amphibians shall be kept in enclosures, tanks, or aquaria, with a water area and a dry area that shall permit moving and turning. Both the dry area and the water area shall provide room to accommodate all animals in the enclosure simultaneously."

anthone some of this refers to native species but you a correct, it dosent specify. there is some info on requirements on enclosures for lizards and snakes which im sure a LOT of pet stores are in violation of.

[Catfur]

As dart frogs are terrestrial and neither aquatic nor semiaquatic, no water feature would be required. And, yes, Florida law requires a permit to sell any amphibians, period.

[josh raysin]

cat, could one argue that since frogs need water at tads they could be semiaquatuc? im not arguing, i agree completely with you, just wondering if there is an official deffinition.

[Dane]

James Bond will return in "License to Sell...frogs".

[geckguy]

In Fl, you need a permit to sell dart frogs, I wouldn't recomend doing a show without one. F&W routinely do checks.