OH NO... Supplements!!!

[Nicholas]

I need to replace my Supplements. It has been 6 months... and I want to switch over to All Repashy products now my current ones expired. Calcium plus ICB, Supermin and Superpig. Some dendroboard members have done it here... Repashy supplements (If you have not read that post you should. One of the most informative post on Dendroboard.com Allen Repashy the maker of Repashy Suppliments tunes in and him and ED will make your brain spin.) But it seems that everyone is out!!! Http://www.joshsfrogs.com Is my local frog spot and he is out... I managed to get some from Brian's Tropicals But just the Calcium plus ICB... No offence but Alpha pro breeders is the only place that has both supermin and superpig. but they charge like $14 dollars for S&H and want $8 for supermin and $13 dollars for superpig and I just cannot justify spending $35-40 dollars on supplements that normally for EVERYTHING 25 bucks or so for just driving up to josh's... and I get everything Calicum plus ICB SuperMin and SuperPig.
Anyone know some good spots on the net to get repashy and have them in stock... Besides any of the site's sponsors because I already searched them all...

Also on this Thread Repashy supplements Allen mentions this...

Originally Posted by Allen Repashy

Sorry I was away so long from this board. Things have been a little hectic around here. I just got some new analysis results back from DCPAH that I am pretty happy about. I have been testing different available "Forms" of retinol from DSM. I have been getting premix samples, the storing them in a hot place.... and sending them in over six month increments for analysis to measure degradation.. About a year ago I switched my Retinol "Form" in my formula based on a six month analysis, and I just got back my new 6 and 12 month results and am stoked to see two things..... first, the stability in this form has been excellent compared to other forms. and second, the degradation has pretty much stayed spot on with vitamin D as far as the ratio goes... but more importantly, the vitamin A and D are nearly rock solid at 12 months!

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I am wondering if anyone else has anymore information on this. I would like to know if it would be safe to keep repashy supplements for 12 months instead of 6... As this would be great for my wallet and my frogs!!!

[Enlightened Rogue]

New England Herpetoculture - Vitamins & Chemicals

John

[Nicholas]

John. You rock
And I was wrong. NEHerps is a sponsor.

Now can anyone answer my second Question:

Originally Posted by Nicholas

Also on this Thread Repashy supplements Allen mentions this...

I am wondering if anyone else has anymore information on this. I would like to know if it would be safe to keep repashy supplements for 12 months instead of 6... As this would be great for my wallet and my frogs!!!

[Ed]

Some of the best evidence out there suggests that even though the A is stable, the supplements should still be replaced after six months as other vitamins (like some of the water soluble vitamins) will still degrade. This is based on some of the newer information supplied by Dr. Wright.

Ed

[Nicholas]

Thanks Ed. No better person to have answer my Question.

[TDK]

I'm sure this has been asked before--but what if you broke your vitamins into much smaller packages and then froze them until needed? Shelf life?

[Ed]

Originally Posted by TDK

I'm sure this has been asked before--but what if you broke your vitamins into much smaller packages and then froze them until needed? Shelf life?

There was prior discussion but the problem arises when you attempt to prevent freezer burn and/or moisture condensating on thawing. The effor is probably not worth the cost.

People should also be aware that if they are splitting supplements they should be using non-reactive containers that prevent light penetration (plastic bags don't cut it)... Leaving the supplements in the hot sun while stopping somewhere on the way home can also further degrade supplements if they are not stored correctly....

Ed

[TDK]

I would be really helpful if some of the supplement manufacturers would divide their products into smaller containers/packages for those of us that don't have a larger collection that can't possibly use all of what's in a package within 6 months. For example if the Repashy were packaged into 4 packages within one contaier that would be helpful. I'm throwing away most of what I purchase every 6 months. Of course the cost would increase if packaging increased. Plus I don't know of anyone nearby that I can split supplements with and on a schedule also.

[zBrinks]

Why not arrange a 'group buy' among local froggers? I routinely split an order of supplements with 3 or 4 others.

As a side note, Josh should be back in stock today. Allen Repashy is a great guy, but shipping out orders in a timely fashion is another thing, lol.

[Dendro Dave]

I plan on giving the repashy supplements a try, but I don't think I'll abandon herp-cal completely...at least not till a good number of people have used this as their exclusive frog supplement for a year +

I don't see any reason to stop using a product completely that has a proven track record. Most problems that have shown up can probably be attributed to under or over use and old degraded powders. I personally think people who feed and use the same supplements daily or nearly so are just asking for trouble. If the vitamins go bad then with the excessive use they've just compounded the problem and given the frog less of a chance to survive till they replace their supplements.

I figure 1 or 2 feedings repashy, then 1 feeding repcal combo...or vise versa, then maybe take a feeding day off and give non supplemented flies only.