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Old 01-18-2010, 08:18 PM
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Default Mites in the Springtail cultures.

This may be of help to the new peeps...

We all know to keep our springtail cultures seperate from the FF cultures due to mites walking over to them, so...

I keep my springtail cultures in the regular 32oz standard FF cups on charcoal with @ an inch of water. I wanted to have a TINY bit of ventilation since I go away for a couple weeks at a time and that way the Co2 build up wouldn't kill the colony.

I punch 4 TINY holes with a craft punch (smallest size) and 2 horrible things happened.

1. The holes were near the top (if that matters) and enough air movement in the room apparently caused enough evaporation to make the culture on the dry side

2. WORST of all.....uneaten and/or escaped FF from the vivs walked onto the cultures and found the tiny hole and entered the spring cultures. A dry winter basement must have made the watery cultures very inviting as usually the "feral" FF will actually make there way BACK into the vivs (and certain froggy doom) in thier quest for moisture.

As we also know, the FF are usually carrrying grain mites on their bodies and thus - infected charcoal / spring cultures.

Not THAT big a deal, as the charcoal can be reused but the spring production suffered and it was a rookie mistake.

Though I would share that.....
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Old 01-18-2010, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: Mites in the Springtail cultures.

I had a coco coir woodlice culture become a mite culture, the frogs love the mites
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Default Re: Mites in the Springtail cultures.

Thanks for the info!

I need to seperate my feeders too because I noticed some mites on the lid of my springtail culture.
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Default Re: Mites in the Springtail cultures.

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This may be of help to the new peeps...

A dry winter basement must have made the watery cultures very inviting as usually the "feral" FF will actually make there way BACK into the vivs (and certain froggy doom) in thier quest for moisture.
So, will the mites/FF kill the frogs?
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Old 01-18-2010, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: Mites in the Springtail cultures.

No. Not all all. The grain mites will either be eaten by the frogs or die in the viv.
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Default Re: Mites in the Springtail cultures.

Phil,

Is it possible the mites came in on the charcoal? I had the same problem with mites in the charcoal springtail cultures. I've never had them in my FF cultures yet. To solve the problem, I microwave the charcoal, after rinsing the dust off, when I set up my cultures. No more mites since. Hope this helps.
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Default Re: Mites in the Springtail cultures.

Jason I just mite have to hit you up for a culture

Phil, how did the grain mites cause your springtail cultures to crash? From out-competing for food?
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Default Re: Mites in the Springtail cultures.

I would have to say....that I fully believe that the grain mites "rode" in on the FF bodies. I use the cowboy brand charcoal and give it a good hot water wash before use. I can't see that the mites would be on/in the bagged charcoal....

I don't know if the mites are out competeing the springs or what, but my production has suffered. I use, as food, some dust/powered Asian mushrooms and some powder dry baby rice cereal. They mites enjoy those foods as well, it seems.

Not a mite explosion, so I really can't say they are "taking over" but it's just odd.

I think I just may suck at spring cultivation. I picked up a wet mulch spring culture from Keith at the Reading show and it was BUMPING with springs. I have just GOT to master the art of raising springtails "by the spoonful" or die trying......

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Default Re: Mites in the Springtail cultures.

I just had a related question with mites and springs and not much of a responce.

phil- if the mites dont hurt the frogs what did you mean by (certain froggy doom)

I didnt think these kind of mites were bad for frogs?

this is my first try at springs myself bit I have found they REALy like the brewers yeast that come with the large ff culture kits form josh's. light spray after u put it in dry. The area with the yeast is like a rave, everybody all over the dance floor!
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Old 01-19-2010, 12:56 AM
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Default Re: Mites in the Springtail cultures.

also I think my mites came in with my cultures. they have been kept far away from my ff and I noticed mites within 2.5 weeks after getting them
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