Is it possible to get a giant mixing sticky??

[scott r]

I didn't get that from Shawn's post at all. The way I read it is as the old saying goes " The only stupid question is the one not asked" and that as experienced hobbyists we should all remember back when we were asking the exact same questions and treat the ones asking those questions the way we were treated when we asked them. And not be snobbish just because we view them as trivial beginner questions. They are beginner questions just as ours were.

Shawn correct me if i misspoke.

And even if we do not like the question being asked, answering it could have a better outcome than not answering it.

[somecanadianguy]

Originally Posted by Rich Frye

Shock therapy it is then...

cooool were do i sign up i wanna get this going too
craig

[Mywebbedtoes]

Well I think the benefit of a well written, and locked sticky, is that it gives us something easy to reference right away. That way when people ask, and they will, we can give them a link, instead of saying "search!"

The overall opinion of the board should be strongly stressed, but not presented as the only possible thing you can do. It should be put forward as not mixing being the best option. I agree that it has to include reference to the fact frogs are kept in mixed tanks and people have had varrying experiences with that, from bad, to not so bad. Infact, it would be nice to have a couple first hand experiences in the article for reference such as the one Rich recently provided.

However, I do not think we should give a step by step how to keep a mixed species tank, this is contrary to the purpose of the sticky. Yes, people could read that it can and is done. But if we tell them how to do it they will ignor the need reasearch to actually pull it off. If a person chooses to mix, then THEY should do the research on how to do it. They should also accept the consequences. Only by them doing this research will they learn anything valuable, it might even turn them off the idea. The cons outway the pros in a mixed tank by a long shot, so we should not treat them as equal options because they are simply not.

So again, I stress a balanced article, but one that strongly advocates the prefered husbandry practices of single species tanks.

[Rich Frye]

Originally Posted by scott r

I didn't get that from Shawn's post at all. The way I read it is as the old saying goes " The only stupid question is the one not asked" and that as experienced hobbyists we should all remember back when we were asking the exact same questions and treat the ones asking those questions the way we were treated when we asked them. And not be snobbish just because we view them as trivial beginner questions. They are beginner questions just as ours were.

Shawn correct me if i misspoke.

And even if we do not like the question being asked, answering it could have a better outcome than not answering it.

You're missing my point. The "quoting and bolding" was what I was addressing Scott.
I understand what Shawn posted.

Rich

[scott r]

Mywebbedtoes,
I agree 100%. But It would be nice if Ed included some of the spatual necessities that He has addressed in the past, Someone talk about the cons of hybrids and WHY we want to keep the lines pure, Another speak of pathogens and parasites, Another stress issues. Etc.

[Rich Frye]

..or we could just clip all of this from the stuff that has been writen about for the past five years here...

[Rich Frye]

Here's a quick question. Since we are still in the infancy of the hobby , and know little of the longevity potential of our captive darts, how are we to agree upon what constitutes a "successful mixed tank"? What yardstick do we use? Not knowing exactly what viruses (not readily testable) fungi, (also, not readily testable) , and/or a multitude of parasites , (not known or testable) are able to cross-contaminate dart to dart, much less dart to non-dart? How about hthe unseen/unknown stress factors contributed to species not only never found in their natives areas, but never seen a yard away from what should be a sole breeding area?
I'll keep going on this for awhile, if needed.
Once again, please read my signature and refute it if possible.
And we should be dragging (coddling) "newbies" into this conversation?? I don't think so.
For anybody who , after this, feels the need for a big group hug, I'll be @ MWFF. Come and see me for one free hug. Be it group or not.

Rich

[scott r]

Yeah, that would be alot easier and quicker. The links on the Mixing 101 caresheet don't work. They are still Yabb. So, we could replace the links, add some new ones, Bold the title and done

[ian]

Rich, I think you should charge a dollar per hug at MWFF.

I do not like the idea of hybrids. I do feel that some people, no matter what information you give them about mixing in a tank, they will dismiss it until they fail. I do support the balance of information like what Mywebbedtoes is saying. Cons outway the pros.

[scott r]

I agree. And I don't know if they should be labelled as pros, but it should be a balanced article.