Proven Pair Blues....

[John1451]

Hey Guys,

I purchased a "Proven Pair" of Varaderos a few weeks back and was just wondering if it was a mistake? I am now hearing from a few friends that "why would someone sell a PROVEN PAIR???" etc etc etc....

Since I have gotten them I have heard the male call but no eggs or tads yet ..... I was wondering if there is a general hobby "Standard" in selling a proven pair and what others have experienced with other proven pairs they have purchased and how long (under ideal conditions) it took to see results? Is there a period that I should expect for froggy PTSD from the shipping trauma?

John
R. Imitator
P.Terribilis
D.Leucomelas
D.Auratus
D.Tinctorius

[frogmanroth]

It could take 3 years, I am still waiting for a pair of frogs to breed for me. Or it could take a week. It just all depends. Be patient. Leave them be, people mess with the frogs to much.

Give us a pic and all the details you can. Temp, feeding, dusting, misting, tank size, age, and anything else you can.

People get rid of proven pairs all the time. That's usually a chance to get something good. It's the probable pair you have to be wary, pumilio are impossible to sex through pics. Everything else you can get a good idea. Do your home work or ask someone else.

[randommind]

There are a number of different reasons why an individual would sell a proven pair. If you purchased from a reputable individual with good feedback and were satisfied with the research you hopefully did on the seller prior to purchasing, then there is no reason to doubt the "proven pair." Each and every frog is different and the timeframe in which they require to settle in varies greatly.

[ZookeeperDoug]

Lots of reasons to sell proven pairs. Money, time, wanting to work with different frogs, already have other proven pairs of the same species, etc. Give them time and they will probably produce for you.

[John1451]

Thanks guys.... I love this forum.... There are a ton of great people on here

[SmackoftheGods]

Three things. Did you make sure to ask questions before receiving frogs? It's always good to ask clarifying questions about the definitions of things like "proven pair" prior to paying the seller. Who was your seller? If you did your homework you should know if he/she is on the up and up. How's your tank set up? If frogs don't like your tank they won't breed. I had veradero in a tank for 18 months no breeding. Moved them to one they liked anad had a transport photo in two weeks.... Things to think about.

[Julio]

Aside from all that Veraderos are fairly common frogs nowadays thanks to understory. So there have been plenty of proven pairs for sale in the last year my 2 pairs have taken a long break about a year now with no breeding.

[John1451]

True Jake...thank you, I will post pix shortly


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John

Tinctorius
0.0.4 Azureus
0.0.4 Citronella
0.0.4 Yellowback
2.2.4 Powder Blue
O.0.4 Cobalt
0.0.4 Matecho
0.0.1 Inferalanis

Auratus
0.0.4 Costa Rica
O.0.1 Reticulated
0.0.4 Bronze

Leucomelas
0.0.4

[John1451]

http://youtu.be/g3l42WKxGck


Heres the enclosure....


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John

Tinctorius
0.0.4 Azureus
0.0.4 Citronella
0.0.4 Yellowback
2.2.4 Powder Blue
O.0.4 Cobalt
0.0.4 Matecho
0.0.1 Inferalanis

Auratus
0.0.4 Costa Rica
O.0.1 Reticulated
0.0.4 Bronze

Leucomelas
0.0.4

[billschwinn]

I think with a little more density of foliage they will feel more secure which should lead to breeding behaviour.