Where have all these frogs gone???
Posted 03-22-2009 at 10:17 PM by Brian Ferriera
There been some talk lately about frogs they are on the cusp of disappearing from the hobby. I thought I would take some time to think about frogs that I have not seen in some time or what frogs have become rare.
P.Terribilis "Mint"
D. tinctorius- Tincs in general seem to be falling off. The high dollar frogs seem to be pushing other ones aside.
Oyapock- I see people looking for these but I dont see people selling any!
Yellowback- Serioiusly, where have these gone? I can't believe the poor mans giant orange has become so rare.
Powderblue- Probably the most common tinc in the late 90's - a beautiful big pale blue frog.
Green Sipaliwini- I remember when these where hot stuff when AJ brought them in. Now they're few and far between.
Lorenzo- Probley my most favorite tinc. So cool and tiny, but there are nowhere near as many as there used to be.
D. Auratus remember the days when you could find a green and black auratus? They got so common that at one point people lost interest in them. Especially when all the cool blue/bronze combo's came in. I think the other thing that hurt these frogs is we have become a site specific community and the auratus (besides maybe hawaii and tobago) never really had site data.
Tabago- Mike Shrom use to have these suckers comeing out left and right. I would love to find someone that has some still from that line
Hawaii- How many of these where imported... and how many are still here??
Costa Rica- Where have all these gone???? This was THE auratus for years
P. aurotaenia- "wide band". For some reason this frog never caught on like the narrow bands did. Not sure why but they are next to impossible to find now.
P. aurotaenia- "Narrow Band" another frog thats been breed out of existence.
R. reticulatas- I remember when i got into the hobby there were a lot of people selling these guys. This was before thumbs where cool. A lot of what i saw was frog that where was to young being sold and not doing to well. I knew of very few people that did well with these and the few that did do well with them still have them and the price of course is no longer $60.
E.Tricolor- Here's a frog thats probably gone through the most in and outs of the hobby. They're hot, then they're not, then they're hot again. Then they're gone.
They're a $50-$70 frog one minute and then they're $20 because people overbreed them.
I am sure I will think of some more..then been allot of frogs that have come and gone heres a few I am worried about that seem to be headed in that direction.
H. azureiventris- we waited for years to get males and when we did they bred like crazy and now they seem to have fallen off the map again.
R.ventrimaculatas- They seem to be getting harder and harder to find. These where my first frogs they are a great frog.
R. Imitator- The frog I hold near and dear to my heart. With the newer morphs that are coming in and with other ones rumored to be coming, I am really worried for the standard morph which is just a killer frog.
That's all for now have a good day!
Brian
P.Terribilis "Mint"
D. tinctorius- Tincs in general seem to be falling off. The high dollar frogs seem to be pushing other ones aside.
Oyapock- I see people looking for these but I dont see people selling any!
Yellowback- Serioiusly, where have these gone? I can't believe the poor mans giant orange has become so rare.
Powderblue- Probably the most common tinc in the late 90's - a beautiful big pale blue frog.
Green Sipaliwini- I remember when these where hot stuff when AJ brought them in. Now they're few and far between.
Lorenzo- Probley my most favorite tinc. So cool and tiny, but there are nowhere near as many as there used to be.
D. Auratus remember the days when you could find a green and black auratus? They got so common that at one point people lost interest in them. Especially when all the cool blue/bronze combo's came in. I think the other thing that hurt these frogs is we have become a site specific community and the auratus (besides maybe hawaii and tobago) never really had site data.
Tabago- Mike Shrom use to have these suckers comeing out left and right. I would love to find someone that has some still from that line
Hawaii- How many of these where imported... and how many are still here??
Costa Rica- Where have all these gone???? This was THE auratus for years
P. aurotaenia- "wide band". For some reason this frog never caught on like the narrow bands did. Not sure why but they are next to impossible to find now.
P. aurotaenia- "Narrow Band" another frog thats been breed out of existence.
R. reticulatas- I remember when i got into the hobby there were a lot of people selling these guys. This was before thumbs where cool. A lot of what i saw was frog that where was to young being sold and not doing to well. I knew of very few people that did well with these and the few that did do well with them still have them and the price of course is no longer $60.
E.Tricolor- Here's a frog thats probably gone through the most in and outs of the hobby. They're hot, then they're not, then they're hot again. Then they're gone.
They're a $50-$70 frog one minute and then they're $20 because people overbreed them.
I am sure I will think of some more..then been allot of frogs that have come and gone heres a few I am worried about that seem to be headed in that direction.
H. azureiventris- we waited for years to get males and when we did they bred like crazy and now they seem to have fallen off the map again.
R.ventrimaculatas- They seem to be getting harder and harder to find. These where my first frogs they are a great frog.
R. Imitator- The frog I hold near and dear to my heart. With the newer morphs that are coming in and with other ones rumored to be coming, I am really worried for the standard morph which is just a killer frog.
That's all for now have a good day!
Brian
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I agree the tincs are at risk as it seems people are flocking to the newer thumbnails. Im hoping to pickup some more tinc species soon.Posted 03-22-2009 at 11:26 PM by kyle1745
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I was in to Thumbnails before they were popular. So there.
sPosted 03-23-2009 at 01:41 AM by Scott 
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If i recall you where also the one that got retics from jane mercall (spelling??) for like $55-$60 tooQuote:Originally Posted by Scott
I was in to Thumbnails before they were popular. So there.
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BrianPosted 03-23-2009 at 02:19 AM by Brian Ferriera
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Yes - tiny frickin' things. Never had a chance.
I think it was Metcalf (er, it was Merkel, I remember now). How do you remember this sh!t?
sPosted 03-23-2009 at 02:22 AM by Scott
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I would like to buy some brazilian cobalts mid april anyone knbow where i can get some?Posted 03-23-2009 at 03:32 AM by eclipsepilot
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The hobby in general is the reason. Business breed these frogs and have to make money or they dissappear. everyone wants to make money on them and is only buying accordingly. Even though tincs at $25ea can make you more money than pumilio at $300, people don`t want to do the work. This is what happens.
I did the work for 12 years, having extras all the time until no one was buying them anymore. I only have so much space and figured it`s better for me to breed frogs and stay in business rather than to not help at all. While we are trying to save frogs it`s the buyers who decide what sticks around. The perception of me always having them around also drives the thought that they are "established" and then no one wants them.Posted 03-23-2009 at 12:17 PM by frogfarm
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Not to mention there are more morphs out there than qualified breeders. This is where you can have 7k people on this site but they stay for a couple months then they are gone. We can`t keep morphs in the hobby if we can`t keep people in the hobby!Posted 03-23-2009 at 12:21 PM by frogfarm
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Great point Aaron, no one seems to be in this hobby for the long run, too much frenzied buying and selling seems to be a major cause of this.
Great thread, Brian!Posted 03-26-2009 at 11:15 PM by bobberly1
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yeah, I'm always pretty bummed to see "selling collection" in the classifieds, it seems a lot of people get in really quickly and then just dump all their frogs after they realize its more work/money than they expected...
the economy certainly doesn't help either...Posted 03-30-2009 at 04:44 AM by eLisborg
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I JUST posted on a thread about this no more than an hour before stumbling on your blog. Thanks for pointing that out too. I thought I was going crazy for a second there.Posted 10-08-2009 at 12:10 PM by fleshfrombone
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I'm new to the hobby (not yet out of middle school, cut me some slack!) and I had no idea about any of this going on!Posted 02-14-2011 at 12:35 AM by KaitlinDragon
