Sustained High Temp's

[TURQ64]

Hello, This is my first post here, so please bear with me.This may parallel another thread that's similar, but I didn't want to be threadjacking on my first apearance. I currently have thumb's as for types of frogs. My viv's are in my fishroom, which is a large Discus oriented operation. Temp's in tanks are a steady 82, achieved by heating the room. Works great for the fish, orchids, and other greenery. But I need the experienced to chime in on how this will work out long term for my frogs. I keep a small fan blowing accross the face of their tanks, and this keeps the temp inside to between 78-82. The room temp won't vary with the exception of warm days that allow the gas heat to be lowered for a number of hours. Only option available to me in the event that this is excessive is to put them floor level, and being over 60, that's not an enjoyable location. Thanks ahead for any advice. Gary

[mordoria]

Thats pushing it for temps. 80 or lower is what my frogs seem most comfortable with. Higher then 80 and I dont see them.I also know that a lot of parasites and infections love being above 80 degrees. Maybe you could blow a fan across the lights above the frog tank

[Patricia1234]

Switching to LED bulbs may lower the temp too as they generate little to no heat.

[johnachilli]

If your ambient room temp is 78-82 I think this might be a poor location for your frogs. Is there any cool down temperature at night in the room? With even LED lights a temperature increase of 2-3 degrees put the viv in the danger zone of temperatures IMO. I prefer to keep things on the cooler end less stress on the frogs makes for a better situation. This might be feasible if there was a dramatic decrease in temperature at night but given it is a fish room I feel this is probably not the case.

I would consider a different location for your frogs

[Rusty_Shackleford]

I would worry about an unseasonal heat wave which would push your temps even higher. If I'm understanding things correctly, instead of heating each individual discus tank you heat the whole room. Which would mean little to no temperature drop at night. That in itself would probably stress the frogs.

[hypostatic]

What species of frogs are you keeping? If I remember correctly pumilios like a bit higher temperatures, such as the ones you're describing. Post a picture of your setup and maybe some members can give you some tips.

I would also recommend having some ventilation on the inside of your vivs; that way you frogs can make use of evaporative cooling to help thermoregulate.

[frogface]

You might as well start selling off your fish and lower your room temps. There's no fighting it. Once you go frogs, you never go back. Think of all the frog tanks you'd have if they didn't have all those fish in them!

[shibbyplustax]

Originally Posted by frogface

You might as well start selling off your fish and lower your room temps. There's no fighting it. Once you go frogs, you never go back. Think of all the frog tanks you'd have if they didn't have all those fish in them!

Lol there deff. is no fighting it. I started off with 3 tropical fish tanks now im down to 1 nice bowfront and thinking how good it would look as a viv.

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[TURQ64]

Well, thanks for the input so far. I'm keeping varadero's at present, waiting on a few others. I kept a few waay back in the 80's when my fish tanks were heated individually. The frogs were most likely smuggled then. The fishroom is constant; no variation day or night. Room has 12" insulation to avoid fluctuation..Yeah, I get the 'sell the fish', but they make the payments on all the other pet foods and such. Been that way for 5 decades. Being retired makes one squeeze every 'yankee frogskin' to keep the ends close together. Should mother nature deal me a bad hand again, as she does once in a while, I'd be big in frog expansion. I already branched out into invert's for their relative ease of maintenance and high demand..The fish business is really off in this economy.
back on track, I am presently double covering the vid's with both screen and glass, which in a Rube Goldberg fashion allows the fans to lower the frog's enviroment somewhat..Most are in a 29 tall. They are plenty active; I got the veradero's from Phil Tan, and they are nice frogs...waiting on some chazuta's, and if fish sales pick up, I'm down for a few benedicta's..

[JPccusa]

Perhaps you can use evaporation to cool down the vivs. Is the room humidity relatively low? If so, blowing air into the vivs (even if warm air) will help. Other than that, you will have to lower the room temperature or move the vivs to a different room.