FF's in my brazilian rainbow cage?!

dylanserbin · #1 (**permalink**) 03-10-2010, 06:02 PM

Hey, i have some dart frogs and just recently i got a Brazilian rainbow boa. I was looking inside his cage today and some of the FF's from my dart frogs were in his cage.

I know this is a dart frog forum, but does anybody know if the FF's are bad and will reproduce in his enclosure?

And Second, How can i keep them from going into his tank?

frogparty · #2 (**permalink**) 03-10-2010, 06:04 PM

no food = no new flies
Are you sure they are ffs and not phorid flies or fungus gnats?

poimandres · #3 (**permalink**) 03-10-2010, 06:10 PM

yeah like frogparty stated, first make sure they are fruit flies. If they are, there shouldn't be a problem. Your rainbow boa will not mind them. How did they get in? Rainbow Boas need rather high humidity levels so if you have a screen top you might want to consider covering most (if not all) of it - this will limit the amount of ffs that can get in as well. Additionally, you can look into pest strips or a cup of vinegar to catch the fruit flies.

dom · #4 (**permalink**) 03-10-2010, 06:11 PM

i used to get FFs in some of my snake enclosures when i had my snakes next to my dart frog tanks. They seems to escape the vivs then head towards a new water source which happened to be my snakes water bowls. Never had any harmful affects they usually drowned, i would just changed the water out when i saw them in there.

Arrynia · #5 (**permalink**) 03-10-2010, 06:13 PM

Perhaps they were in there trying to get the boa to assassinate the frogs for eating their comrades?

Philsuma · #6 (**permalink**) 03-10-2010, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frogparty

Are you sure they are ffs and not phorid flies

Be VERY sure you make a correct I.D on those flies. If they are phorid flies.....there is cause for concern

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://pagesperso-orange.fr/eycb/scorpions/Images/Photos%2520galerie/Enemies/Phorides2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://pagesperso-orange.fr/eycb/scorpions/Gennemis.htm&usg=__PGep3xJikYuqeVv7F9YgFH9sOQc=&h= 240&w=300&sz=21&hl=en&start=4&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=OC Zm4q4hfh-P-M:&tbnh=93&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dphorid%2Bfly%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa% 3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1

The main difference is that phorid flies are fast and actually "run" on surfaces........fast....

frogparty · #7 (**permalink**) 03-10-2010, 08:21 PM

Thats why Im asking. Wingless mels or hydei should be easy to id

dylanserbin · #8 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 05:40 AM

Hey, ya about the humidity.. not a concern. hes covered in plexi-glass keeping it around 85-90% and the FF's are definitely melanogasters. I was just worried about mites or something that MAY be on the FF's. That is IF my FF's ever had mites. You know what im saying??

Dragonfly · #9 (**permalink**) 03-11-2010, 06:40 AM

Please avoid the no-pest strips in your frog room. These toxic items are not something that should be there.

mtolypetsupply · #10 (**permalink**) 03-12-2010, 03:30 AM

We have many different herps and the FF's seem to go to visit all of them. I wouldn't be concerned, they won't hurt your BRB (got pics? we have 5 of them! Love 'em!). Just make sure you don't let the water get funky with them, change it often.