just some frog related questions

i was thinking i cant really decide what i want for frogs and i have a twenty high and i would put it horazontal. if i put some plexi in the middle how many frogs could i put in each half? cuz i want different kinds. i have seen 10 gals with like 2 in each


what frogs are easy breeders. i want to do frogs but i am short on cash as i dont have a job and thought selling the froglettes would make cash

[PoohMac]

If you want to make money, then Dart frogs is not away to go. Your in it for the hobby not the cash. It takes allot of time and money invested to get back the money you spent. It can take any where from 12-18 months before a PDF is ready to breed and even after that they may not breed for you anyways. A 10gal tank is for a pair and thats about it( depending on species). Most of us here on the board have jobs and do frogs as a hobby and sell alittle bit here and there and that basically pays for your upkeep etc.

well i wanna do that to but i am not gunna have like a whole room of them prolly just a single tank for a while. i might not even get darts for all i know. i mostly want it cuz well i like frogs and i have read u dont have to clean the tanks cuz of the natural bacteria ( i hate having to clean out a tank unless i really NEED to)

i wil prolly get the plants in which will cost around 100 bucks and let it grow in then there will prolly be more choices for me to choose from. i was thinking mantellas or maybe red eyes. it wont cost like 100 bucks. how much is there to do. FF culture not much and then i dont need much

[slaytonp]

You will need a drainage layer or false bottom of some sort, substrate, appropriate plants, maintain fruit fly cultures on an on-going basis, such as starting a fresh culture every week or so, either buying or mixing your own media, lighting for the plants, vitamin dusts, etc. While the biologically "recycling tanks" with live plants do not need taking down and changing on an on-going basis, they do need glass cleaning, plant trimming and care.

Usually when you buy your first frogs, unless you can afford and find a known breeding pair, which would be far more expensive, you won't even know if you have both a male and female until they mature and a male begins to call--or not. Even then, you can't be sure the non-caller is a female. Most darts are notoriously difficult to sex for sure until some, like the azureus are mature and show differences in toe pads. Even if you do get a pair, they may take ages to actually lay viable, fertile eggs. After that, unless it is a thumb species or obligate egg layers that are able to raise their own off-spring, you would need some facilities and knowledgeable faculties for raising the individual tadpole species, and helping them morph into froglets, probably with lots of losses at first. At best, I would guess breeding for any kind of cash and being able to sell and ship them properly to a buyer would be several years down the line from your first excursion into keeping darts. (You would also be competing with well established breeders with good reputations, which you won't have as a beginner with a couple of extra froglets for sale.) I wouldn't rely on this idea for helping much with any immediate expenses incurred in keeping and raising them. "Never count your chickens before the hatch," let alone before you've ever raised a chicken before. Think of a couple of dart frogs as just your own pleasurable experience enjoying a very interesting hobby.

[DaFrogMan]

Originally Posted by ericdu1993

i mostly want it cuz well i like frogs and i have read u dont have to clean the tanks cuz of the natural bacteria ( i hate having to clean out a tank unless i really NEED to)

I wouldn't get darts because they are "clean." The fact that you don't have to clean the vivarium is mostly because of the way the vivarium is set up - not because of the frogs. You can go and get a few green treefrogs, or redeyes, or dumpies - whatever you want. If you put them in a well-designed vivarium, you probably won't have to do much cleaning.

I had a couple big dumpy treefrogs for a while - a lot of people consider those to be messy. I set them up in a terrarium with substrate, dranage and plants and never cleaned it, it worked out fine.

how about argentine horned frogs? they seem easy enough. i mean the most money will be the food... WOO HOO 2 bucks a week i can handle. and they dont need much room.

[DaFrogMan]

Yea, plus those will eat mice - pretty cool.

can yo guys show me pics of ure budgets, argetine horn, and pixie frogs?


and give me all the requirments.



i have a 20 gal high from walmart and i was wondering if i put a piece of plexi in the middle could i fit 2 FULL GROWN frogs?

[booboo]

Well ericdu1993,
I am rather surprised at your method of taking up this hobby. You don't seem to have passion, you want everyone's advice and information when you could find it by searching (such as the pixie frogs etc, all the info can be found by searching), other posts have lead me to believe you are incompetant, and I can conclude you are not suited to own living animals. Someone should not be buying living creatures solely for the financial aspects.

I would be extremeley hesitant to sell you anything alive, even a cricket. Maybe you should rethink this hobby as it does not sound like something you would be able to responsably deal with. You have not done any research it seems prior to these posts. This is not a hobby for lazy people. Furthermore, one of your first queries is the desire to hybridize the frogs. A simple search would have given you sufficient information on the topic.

I would like to know what amakes you think this hobby is for you? besides the fact that you like frogs...