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[edwardsatc]

Toby,

Have you read the management plan outlined in the ASN handbook? Have you read the scientific literature? It doesn't sound like you have. The methods and models used are well (nearly universally) accepted by the conservation, ecology, and evolution communities. There are mountains of literature on this, this isn't just something that the frog community and TWI concocted. It is well based in the science. This stuff is taught in the most basic of Ecology courses.

Do you have any more specific argument, other than "survival of the fittest"? Can you point specifically to where the management plan or the methods and models described in the literature are wrong or deficient? Can you provide any empirical evidence to support your position?

I don't say this to offend and apologize if I'm wrong, but to be honest, your continued use of the term "survival of the fittest" and the context in which you use it makes me wonder if you really understand the concept of natural selection. "Survival of the fittest" is a very broad, general term that novices usually apply to to natural selection and doesn't really describe anything in specific.

To be honest, I had a long rebuttal to your comments prepared, but with the level of understanding demonstrated so far, it seemed like a waste of time. Additionally, if you haven't read and understand the management plan and the supporting literature, this discussion seems irrelevant.