Being selected from legitimately distinct natural populations versus being artificially selected from naturally variable populations:
This frog farmer from Panama 20 years ago crosses a couple streams and a cliff he's never been before and he suddenly notices ALL the frogs hes been collecting are a different color/pattern in this neck of the woods. Wow, I'm going to send a bunch of these back togther.
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This same frog farmer from Panama goes to the edge of the same area he has always gone to collect his aruatus when he sees a strange one. He moves closer to see and sees this one is a different color! Man, they will probably pay me double for this one! So he swoops it up and keeps his eye out for any others as he knows a pair of these strange looking ones will probably benefit them greatly.
I think I have that correctly?
So one of my question is this:
What if the frog farmer searched and searched but didn't find that second one. Mean while he kept the first with some of the dominant color. They reproduced and spit out this new color 10% of the time. They paired siblings from different clutches and wham, you have a "morph", artificially selected from variable populations.
I used a frog farmer from 15 years ago as an example. From what I read about populations last night, it is very likely that it happened in nature before that.
Now we come to category that no one wants to talk about.
Who thinks it would be easier for some guy in Germany in 1997 to accomplish this?, without having to answer to ethics or the views of a board like this, or doesnt have to provide UE or INIBICO proof of legal importation,
So we can guess when it happened but none us trully knows whether that blue in the bloodline was "introduced" naturally a long time ago or was it by the "wreckless" hobbyist or breeder that decided to try something new on your beautiful frog's great-grandparents and didn't tell anybody. Just made a fortune selling auratus for $150.
Is there a way to prove this genetically? I don't know enough to speak on it and I have to go to work.